Peter Sinclair interview with Michael Mann
Posted on 10 March 2012 by Rob Honeycutt
Peter Sinclair of the YouTube series Climate Denial Crock of the Week, has started a new series in conjunction with the Yale Climate Forum titled This is Not Cool. This first episode is an interview with Dr. Michael Mann where they discuss his new book The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars, as well as Rep Joe Barton's sponsorship of the controversial Wegman report. Duly noted in this video is a point in Congressional hearings where it becomes painfully obvious that Wegman is not a climate scientist and does not understand the most basic climate science, as he notes that CO2 is heavier than air and should, as a result, reside close to the planet surface.
We're all looking forward to more great episodes of This is Not Cool.

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If you don't have time to do that, consider leaving comments setting the record straight, or just vote up/down the reviews based on their quality and whether or not the reviewers appear to have read Dr. Mann's book.
Dr. Mann really appreciates gestures of support like that.
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I did my part and posted a review entitled, "Attack of the C-Students".
The problem is that you get the wrong answer. If entropic mixing were the only thing going on, then the relative concentration of CO2 would decrease with altitude with a scale height of 5-10km. But it doesn't. Measurements show that it is pretty even throughout the troposphere.
So there are other mixing effects going on. Clearly in the troposphere convection is going to be the big player. But I can't quantify the mechanism from first principles. I suspect that doing so is horribly complex.
However, the fact that CO2 is well mixed should certainly be well known to anyone with any knowledge of the field.
The fact that we haven't all asphyxiated is pretty good evidence that CO2 is well-mixed in the atmosphere, and even the science-ignorant such as myself can figure that one out. :)
Here's hoping we see and hear more from him.
I remember back in the day when C Everett Koop was asked by President Reagan to do a study on the health effects on women who had had abortions. The expectation being that, if there were post-procedural impacts there might be reason to ban abortions. Koop, who was appointed by Reagan, stated that the results of the data did not support the position. There's a pretty good wiki account of this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Everett_Koop
Other planets have less airborne ice crystals in their atmophere so their weathers are more predictable, no?
These results have been confirmed by Daube et al, 2002:
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You may also want to see Carlotti et al, 2007 for a more detailed picture.
The pools of "CO2 on the ground" have come from the overturning of volcanic lakes, which brings the bottom water with a very high concentration of CO2 to the surface and releases it to the atmosphere in a cool form. Direct volcanic emissions of CO2 to the atmosphere are unlikely to form volcanic pools IMO because the gas will be warm, and hence rise.
Some of the middle/upper tropospheric level variation is probably due clouds (CO2 gets dissolved in cloud droplets).
The level of stratospheric high concentration might be the one level where CO2 can freeze?
An interesting question - one that got asked at WUWT, with respect to Martian atmosphere, but was (correctly, I might add) answered. No.
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The lower the pressure, the lower the solidification point, and there is no location in the Earth climate with temperature/pressure where CO2 might freeze naturally.
Some of them may be over-religious types, but I'm pretty sure, having argued with lots on Youtube etc, that libertarians, hardline right and left types and just sheer bloody minded contrarians make up the largest proportion of deniers/sceptics.
Replication and due diligence, Wegman style
Wegman accepted McIntyre's flawed and cherry-picked PCA analysis without doing the slightest bit of due diligence on it. In short, the WR was a colossal stitch-up of MBH98 using way over-persistent red noise to generate the random time series, then cherry-picking the top 100 most hockey stick-like PCs from the 10,000+ simulation runs.
This Wegman/McIntyre stitch-up is described in Mann's book (which I just finished reading this morning), but alas, did not make it into that interview.
Corporation) called "Demon Coal" but it quickly shifts to criticizing AGW and trots out the premier Canuck contrarians, including Ross McKittrick - and an extensive interview with Judith Curry.
I must say, she's moving ever more towards denialism.
Part 2 will available Mar 19
I'm trying to keep this in the right topic bin, which appears to be here since this post is the most recent referring to Wegman.
In the current (May-June 2013) issue of American Scientist, Andrew Gelman documents serial plagiarism by Wegman. Gelman on Wegman Wegman's behavior with Mann is part of a chronic problem of academic misconduct (apparently).